Comments on: Fan Outrage Changes Future of Friday the 13th Franchise. Here’s Why That Concerns Me. https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/Halloween & Horror BlogThu, 15 Aug 2019 00:27:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: Moaner Lawrence https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7794Mon, 01 Feb 2016 19:11:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7794In reply to The Peronah.

Respectfully, I would rather find out that my idea won’t be received well by fans BEFORE I spend my money on a project than AFTER the fact. Also, I’m assuming that IF these guys had the money (or were able to obtain a loan) to finance the proposed film then they would have done so with or without fan consent. So what I take away from this is that a small group of people (a director, a writer, a few actors – I have no idea who) wanted to spend a studio or someone else’s money to create a product (and essentially gamble) that is not guaranteed to generate enough revenue. Honestly, I’d thank the fans this time.

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By: Mark Kaiser https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7394Mon, 22 Jun 2015 06:53:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7394Very good article, and many legitimate concerns addressed here. Being a fan of Horror and Sci-Fi, a big fan, since the early 70’s as a kid, and later as a teen in the “Golden Age Of Horror” of the 80’s (All hail the Drive-Ins), I think the youth of today, as well as the old timers like myself concerns are genuine, if not warranted, concerning all genres of filmmaking, not just horror. However, Horror does get the brunt of tomatoes tossed. Story-telling, acting, plots, and originality have all been extremely lackluster ventures by supposed ‘Expert Filmmakers’ for the last two decades, and too many people have left theaters after spending their hard earned, extremely disappointed. Many interviews with the ‘True Experts’, John Carpenter, Steve Miner, Dante, Frankenheimer, all confirm this. Not to mention the actors and actresses comments. Lazy filmmaking and quick cash grabs have become commonplace in exchange for ingenuity, great storytelling, and a true belief by filmmakers in their picture, and it shows.

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By: Xmoritz https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7353Mon, 01 Jun 2015 01:51:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7353I think that horror movies in franchises like Friday 13th are not and never have been the free and complete visions of the filmakers who made them. They are instead products made from movie studios who never let the filmakers completely free to do what they want. Back in the 80’s it was nearly impossible to apply to the global audience asking for approval of new ideas and so the studios could only guess how to attract horror fans to the movies. Now they can. And without any hesitation, they fire writers or thrash ideas, just to give the audience exactly what they want. Because the goal, yesterday as today, was and is to score. Yesterday it was tickets, today it is tickets (less) and clicks (more). So it’s up to us.. Let’s stop judging negatively what has not been done, yet.. or the movies will be all the same.. sometimes what appears to be a crazy idea may turn up to become a wonderful movie. And speaking of the Friday 13th franchise let’s all remember the “quality” of such movies as Part 3 or Jason Goes To Hell..

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By: TwiztidJuggla420 https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7338Wed, 27 May 2015 01:15:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7338In reply to The Peronah.

Have you seen any of the Krueger fan shorts where Roberto Lombardi plays Freddy? I honestly think he did a better job portraying Freddy in those shorts than Jackie did. Several others agree judging by their comments on message boards.

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By: TwiztidJuggla420 https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7337Wed, 27 May 2015 01:00:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7337In reply to The Peronah.

True. That is what he says now, but that wasn’t what he said prior to or when it was released. Robert has never said anything negative about the actor. Of course I think that is mainly because he is better than that and isn’t going to talk shit on anybody.

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By: The Peronah https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7336Wed, 27 May 2015 00:33:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7336In reply to TwiztidJuggla420.

I had a chance to ask Robert about that at a Con. He’s retired himself from the role. So no, he wouldn’t have taken the role. Also we’re also not talking about a random actor. We’re talking about Jackie Earle Haley. Who did a fantastic job. If anyone was worthy to succeed Englund as as Freddy it was him.

I’ll agree with you that the story was garbage and the Freddy design wasn’t as good as it will be, but Haley’s acting was top notch.

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By: The Peronah https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7335Wed, 27 May 2015 00:27:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7335In reply to Moaner Lawrence.

What a horrible idea. Read the mountain of horrible Friday the 13th Fan-Fiction that’s out there on the internet and you’ll agree.
Having a “fan panel” is kind of counter intuitive to what John was getting at. The internet is basically the “fan panel”, if the studios really wanted input on what the fans wanted, they’d look online. That doesn’t cost anything.

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By: TwiztidJuggla420 https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7333Tue, 26 May 2015 19:17:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7333In reply to Job’s Wat.

“Seems like writing “WTF are you talking about” is a pretty good indicator of starting an argument with someone.” That wasn’t my intention, but if that is how you perceived it, my apologies. I didn’t say that the “go have a Faygo” was making fun of my username. I was referring to your comment, “…they need to be made fun of for anything and everything.” Yes, I am. Yes, it is. I still don’t see how that was or is relevant to the text in the conversation though, bro. Again my apologies about my wording, I was not attempting to offend you. Sorry.

P.S. I guess I lied in my last post about it being my last post. No hard feelings. :)

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By: Job's Wat https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7331Tue, 26 May 2015 18:51:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7331In reply to TwiztidJuggla420.

Seems like writing “WTF are you talking about” is a pretty good indicator of starting an argument with someone. Especially when we weren’t really debating the history of the internet. My point was always to reply to the comment saying internet comments changed the direction of the Halloween franchise.

And how is saying “Go have a Faygo” making fun of your username? You’re not a Juggalo? Isn’t “The Juggla” an ICP song?

Seems the only thing “twiztid” here is your logic.

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By: TwiztidJuggla420 https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7330Tue, 26 May 2015 18:42:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7330In reply to Job’s Wat.

I didn’t originally possess nor do I now possess any desire to argue with you about anything. I simply stated the internet was around way before 2002. I am sorry you feel the need to make fun of other people. By the way, I didn’t misspell anything. I don’t know why you presume to be informed on subjects that you are obviously ignorant of. Not that it is even relevant here, but my username is a reference to the 1992 song “The Juggla”. I can’t comprehend how somebody who thinks the internet didn’t come along until 2002 can make fun of another person’s intelligence any way. This is my last post on this matter. Hopefully one day you won’t feel the need to make fun of others. Peace.

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By: Job's Wat https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7329Tue, 26 May 2015 18:26:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7329In reply to TwiztidJuggla420.

My point was people were not on the internet making complaints about movies in the 80’s. The original comment claimed that fan complaints ruined the direction of the Halloween franchise. That’s simply not the case. The producers were the ones to make the decision to put Myers back in the films. None of this had anything to do with the internet, which – even though it had been “invented” – was not widely used by the general public. Especially not for things like gossiping about movies.

And come on – when someone can’t even spell “Juggalo”correctly, they need to be made fun of for anything and everything.

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By: TwiztidJuggla420 https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7328Tue, 26 May 2015 18:12:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7328In reply to Job’s Wat.

You are spouting off incorrect information and when somebody points it out to you make a remark about their username that has nothing to do with the subject at hand because you were proven to be misinformed or incorrect. Good logical argument there…By the way, it was you who brought the history of the internet subject up although you stated it didn’t come into existence until ~2002, lol.

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By: Job's Wat https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7327Tue, 26 May 2015 16:51:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7327In reply to TwiztidJuggla420.

Because my point was all about “The History of the Internet”. Good add, Twiztid. Go have a Faygo.

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By: TwiztidJuggla420 https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7326Tue, 26 May 2015 16:50:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7326In reply to Cash Wampum.

I did enjoy the Maniac remake. A Nightmare On Elm Street is my favorite franchise and the remake was horrible. You can’t just cast any random actor for a character as iconic as Freddy Krueger. What makes that particular remake even worse is that they didn’t even approach Robert Englund who would have more than likely been down to reprise his iconic role.

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By: TwiztidJuggla420 https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7325Tue, 26 May 2015 16:43:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7325In reply to Job’s Wat.

20 years? WTF are you talking about? Halloween 3 was released in 1982. The internet was invented in 1983 and the WWW came to fruition in 1990…

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By: Job's Wat https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7324Tue, 26 May 2015 06:46:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7324A found footage Jason movie wasn’t getting made because someone had a brilliant idea for it. It was getting made because found footage movies are super cheap to make. The fact that “fan outrage” put the kibosh on it didn’t Rob F-13 fans of anyone’s “artistic vision”. It just forced Platinum Dunes to be 10% less lazy.

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By: Job's Wat https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7323Tue, 26 May 2015 06:45:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7323In reply to Paul Counelis.

Ummmm…you realize Halloween 3 came out roughly 20 years before the internet was invented, right?

Halloween 3 ranked at the box office, and the producers made the decision that a movie franchise based off of John Carpenter’s “Halloween” was worthless without Michael Myers. Internet whining had nothing to do with it.

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By: WhiskySage https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7321Fri, 22 May 2015 01:16:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7321I mentioned this on Reddit’s horror sub. I’d like to see a more Lovecraftian Friday film, that goes into how the lake itself revives Jason and goads him to kill for it. Crystal Lake is the 2nd most important character in the franchise, and I think it’s time we gave it top billing alongside Jason.

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By: John https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7320Fri, 22 May 2015 00:54:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7320Kane better be Jason or I will boycott this shit.

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By: Cash Wampum https://halloweenlove.com/fan-outrage-changes-future-of-friday-the-13th-franchise-heres-why-that-concerns-me/#comment-7319Thu, 21 May 2015 19:02:00 +0000https://halloweenlove.com/?p=15072#comment-7319I think if the fans had that much pull then we would have long ago been done with the endless remakes that are STILL coming out. Poltergeist is on the horizon. The original in 1982 was made when Speilberg and Hooper were at their best. And with a Goldsmith score and ILM to back them up? We’re talking significant talent making an excellent film. I haven’t seen the new film yet but I know its going to be another CGI circle jerk that’s dominated the teeny bopper horror genre these days. Tell me I’m wrong. Tell me how The Fog faired to Carpenter’s original. The new Nightmare on Elm Street? Garbage. Evil Dead, Fright Night, Halloween. None of these films would be been “re-imagined” if the fans had their way. Its the studios and producers who dictate what gets green lit, not the fans. And to be subjective. If you want a remake done superbly, watch Franck Khalfoun’s Maniac. I’d rather see Jason XI then another reboot.

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